2:16:48honestly I hate ethics philosophy
2:16:50Moral relativism is rooted in solipsism, where only ones own perspective is "real" (aka advanced narcissism)
2:16:50violence good against people i dont like
2:16:56I think utilitarianism is the "middle ground" you're looking for.
2:17:01arguably agnosticism is the middle ground, because you can admit that morality might be objective, but you don't know what that objective morality is.
2:17:01the existance of natural law entails that the ideal conduct exist inside these rules. moral relativists are just hedonists
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2:17:03moral realtivism would be saying "its ok for someone to do this heinous crime" because its part of their culture
2:17:04not really, it's that personal circumstances don't change the rules, not that the rules have to be simplistic
2:17:11Moral absolutism used to be mainstream when Church was the sole arbiter of morality, ie. the middle ages.
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2:17:20IMO it's complicated. Most moral questions have both subjective aspects and objective ones. Many things are morally neutral of themselves and it's the context that matters.
2:17:23pacificism is not good, you can defend yourself with force
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2:17:24:_jellyConfused:Awa? Can we look at pictures of puppies instead? Head hort.
2:17:26half kill the puppy?:_jellyDrool:
2:17:28what if the puppy is a communist
2:17:29then it's not wrong to kill it
2:17:30kill the puppy, save the child
2:17:31send him to attack your enemies. give them rabirs!
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2:17:35moral objectivism = good, moral subjectivism = evil
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2:17:35Then it needs to be put down
2:17:37What if I have a moral framework where holding the middle ground is evil
2:17:38what is moral in awawaland may be different from what is moral in the west